Arthur and Kevin's Nellorat ([info]nellorat) wrote,
@ 2008-07-21 20:18:00
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My Rebirthday Experience
A number of times in LJ, I've mentioned my religious/initiatory experience on April 1, leading me to call that day my rebirthday; I've even come close to writing about it at least once. Now seems like a good time, despite the fact that I can't remember if it was in 1980 or 1981.

I was in my early 20s and in graduate school. I had to finish two incomplete courses by a certain date or flunk; eventually the anxiety of not doing it overcame the anxiety of writing, very close to the deadline for four papers. Looking back, I realized that an academic set of all-nighters has many of the characteristics of sitting for a vision: little and then no sleep, little food, stimulation with caffeine and tobacco. Right before or during this, I got a copy of [info]supergee's amateur press association, The Golden Apa, with discussion of heightened consciousness, kinds of meditation, etc.

My last paper was about Sir Thomas Browne's "Hydriotaphia" and "The Garden of Cyrus," partly concerning how he uses the theta and the chi or X and quincunx (five points arranged as on dice), for death and life respectively, and combines them in a globe: two intersecting circles are seen as the theta from the side, the chi from above. (Frank L. Huntley figured this out based on an otherwise inscrutable passage in the latter work.)

Life, death, the globe. This is cool enough, but as I walked from my apartment to the library--through Duke gardens--I realized I could use that as a meditative technique, identifying chis and thetas (or at least circles), seeing that truth throughout nature as Browne traces the quincunx in "The Garden of Cyrus."

As I dropped off the final paper, right on the final day, awash with relief, weird things began to happen. Instead of the professor's door, suddenly I saw something more geometric, maybe the Platonic form of door. When I began typing up stencils for a Golden Apa zine, I fell into a playful, Joycean semi-gibberish and couldn't get out of it. It didn't bother me, though; I was too tired, too happy, not afraid. I typed out the famous end of "The Garden of Cyrus" ("To keep our eyes open longer were but to act our Antipodes. The Huntsmen are up in America, and they are already past their first sleep in Persia.") and was sure I'd go to sleep.

Instead, I had visions--at least starting out identical to hypnogogic visions--for 3 1/2 hours real time. At first a globe appeared, just meridians of gold against black. That was my guide, in a sense. I can't narrate everything that followed, but it was amazingly eclectic, in five stages. At one point I met Coyote; in the fourth, I felt my Kundalini rise, go out my head, and come back in, bringing something new & good with it. The only bad part was in the middle, a black and red encounter with some angry hunger, like the sow that eats its young.

The fifth stage was Heaven. At first I was also aware of myself, as in the other parts or stages. I knew it was Christian, and when I saw rabbits, I thought, "That's good. Rabbits are a good symbol. Sheep would've been cliche." Then, there was a chorus. And then I joined it. And then there wasn't any me but the chorus, the song, G-d.

For a long time, I would have done anything to recreate that experience. With time and with good advice, I realized that isn't the point. Kenneth Rexroth, on the spiritual alchemy of Thomas Vaughan, mentions "apostles of irresponsible do-it-yourself ecstasy," and says, "The great trouble with these people is that they confuse transcendence with sensationalism." That's a vital distinction. On the other hand, I suspect that what I experienced might be one thing that happens after death, in which case I am A-OK with it.

The envoi was the globe reappearing, and then morphing into a face made by the shining gold lines, like a basic computer graphic; I identified it with Hermes. As it withdrew, the face faded away until only a mouth was left. The mouth spoke a word, which I could not hear, but which I knew was, like whatever the kundalini brought in, a gift of the experience. In this case, the word was my purpose, what the rest of my life would accomplish. And then blackness, and the vision was over.

Later I recognized the Cheshire cat as well as Hermes. And I love the fact that the experience was on April 1.

One immediate effect was that I looked at the ashtrays full of cigarette butts and thought, "Drawing hot smoke into one's lungs and releasing it. What an odd concept." I haven't smoked since. Now, I was an occasional smoker, but a chain-smoker when I did smoke, and that had been getting more often. I really wanted to smoke only once after that, when studying for my Ph.D. comprehensives, and I knew once I took it up I might never stop, so I didn't start.

And the whole world was just wonderful. The next day, I saw a friend, and when he said "How are you?" I said, "Perfect!" The next day, he said, "Are you still perfect?" and I replied, "Yes, but now I've decided everyone else is perfect, too."

In fact, while I'm still a bit proud about the whole thing, I've also come to realize that maybe I was just so stubborn that no other method could reach me, and it was less that I'm a saint and more that I'm the mule that you hit with a 2x4 to get its attention.

I also emerged convinced not only that there is a G-d, but that I had experienced a meeting of sorts. But being an agnostic seemed more socially acceptable. I only half jokingly wailed to a friend, "Only weak, stupid people believe in God!" And he said the perfect thing: "As weak as Martin Luther, as stupid as Augustine...."

And then there's the question of craziness, which I grappled with for a while. Among other things, Philip K. Dick's experiences convinced me that one can be both crazy and undergoing a genuinely spiritual experience; I learned that it also makes sense to share certain experiences mainly with people who won't stigmatize them, who have productive ways to frame them. In a way, writing this up shows my extreme confidence now. I'm happy to answer any questions.

I began to read voraciously and spent years getting my basic bearings around the experience. Magic, religion, consciousness studies, synchronicity, more. As the years went on, my voracious interest shifted gradually from the issue of what exactly I experienced to the issue of, given what I experienced, how I should be living. I learned to pray--not just talking to G-d, but listening, not the strong point of a Catholic upbringing. I came to understand the benefit of a community, and sometimes I go to church, but in many ways I still prefer art, such as the words of Charles Williams, Thomas Traherne, William Blake, Sir Thomas Browne, and Gerard Manley Hopkins. I generally feel that I was lucky to have just enough religious training to understand religious art, but not enough to spoil the whole topic for me.

My sense of G-d is sometimes quite strong, sometimes not so. To me, faith is not believing with no evidence, but believing even when I don't feel G-d, knowing that it's temporary and I will again. I see no particular reason why anyone should believe in G-d on anyone else's say-so, though mocking believers or the concept just because of one's own lack of experience seems to me to be quite rude.

Mood: reflective, exposed, interested to see responses


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[info]nancylebov
2008-07-22 02:18 am UTC (link)
Thanks for posting this. I don't know if you ever wrote it up in so much detail for Golden Apa, but this is certainly more than I remember you writing about it.

I've never experienced anything like it, so I'll just give a couple of related bits. Karen Armstrong's _The Spiral Staircase_ is a spiritual memoir, and part of it is about mental immersion in spiritual texts.

I've seen the appetite for unusual experiences mentioned as one of the risks of meditation-- I'm glad you dodged that bullet, especially considering the temptation offered by such an excellent and unusual experience.

And on a scholar finally figuring out the geometry of what Browne meant: That's massively cool. And it reminds me of work that was done by a mathematician on Benjamin Franklin's hobby of mathematics. Historians just didn't know enough math to do it.

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[info]nellorat
2008-07-23 01:43 am UTC (link)
I wouldn't say I dodged the bullet, but it did just graze me, and I'm glad also. But, for instance, my stay at 1,2,3,Many would probably have gone much more smoothly--apart from the helpful or non- things that others did--if I'd known more about different states, what was important and what wasn't.

Actually, you were one of the sources of good advice, as somewhat early on in Golden Apa o in person you mentioned you'd read that about a risk of meditation. Yoga people can almost wax too strong about not getting tempted by the more spectacular gifts--but it's important, too, yes.

Now I have a written prompt to remind me to get The Spiral Staircase and read it.

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[info]wild_patience
2008-07-22 02:24 am UTC (link)
Very cool. Thanks for sharing that.

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[info]wcg
2008-07-22 02:43 am UTC (link)
From time to time, over the ... sixteen(?) years I've known you, you have managed to amaze and delight me. This is one of those times.

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[info]meggins
2008-07-22 03:49 am UTC (link)
An amazing experience, to be sure, but perhaps more amazing is that it was just a springboard to more. More stuff that's equally amazing if less spectacular.

Thank you for sharing.

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[info]nellorat
2008-07-23 01:44 am UTC (link)
And thank you for that comment! In this as in my love life, I've been very lucky and had good opportunities to use, but I do work hard, also. Although neither love nor understanding this stuff seems like work most of the time.

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[info]men_in_full
2008-07-22 03:33 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for writing this ... a lot to ponder here.

I have just started going back to church (Episcopal, FWIW), and I'm trying to *not* get into it so much with my head as with my heart. I have the same experience, with finding more "conversation" with the divine through art - but my experience also has been that beautiful liturgy done with reverence *is* a deeply artistic experience - and thus spiritual as well. So your comments struck a chord here.

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[info]nellorat
2008-07-23 01:48 am UTC (link)
You are absolutely right about a good mass! Many more strange and wonderful things happened in the months after my rebirthday, and one was a friend taking me to see the Paul Winter Consort in the Mass for the Earth at the Cathedral of St. John the Divine. It was breathtaking.

I also do feel a strong response to any mass, though I am a bit of a sermon snob: any sermon that leaves me thinking "I could do better than that" or just without something new to ponder gets my mental thumbs-down. What churches have the John Donnes of this era? And how can I join them?

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[info]men_in_full
2008-07-28 11:28 am UTC (link)
I don't know where the Donnes are ... I just started going to a small Anglo-Catholic parish with the "smells and bells," where the priest says a pretty reverent liturgy. She is a pretty good sermonizer, too. I have a lot of personal issues to work out re: religion, so am "waiting and seeing" at this point. To me, the Mass isn't one's private showcase or theatrical stage. That's not happening here, so it makes me happy.

BTW, it's really nice to be able to remark about this. Thanks.

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Correcting for perpetual effect/affect mistakes! (-:
[info]lavendertook
2008-07-22 04:04 pm UTC (link)
Mocking believers is rude. However, it is also a defensive reaction against the real power of a state religion, as some forms of Christianity have in this country, and rudeness pales next to the oppressiveness of that power and the effect it has on our lives. I've definitely engaged in such rudeness at times and I'm sure I will again.

But on your experience that you've related here--how neat! Walking through Duke Gardens I think would be a wonderful entryway to mystical experience.

I've experienced a sense of altered states--feeling "possessed by muses"--in all nighters writing papers, writing stories, interactive storytelling (rp),and drawing. I don't know if those states are a connection to something outside myself. I tend to think materialisticly of my experiences as a connection to other parts of my brain not used at other times, though I enjoy the more mystical explanations.

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Re: Correcting for perpetual effect/affect mistakes! (-:
[info]nellorat
2008-07-23 01:58 am UTC (link)
We can agree to disagree, but I dunno about your first point. Supergee and I were discussing what forms of belief and disbelief were more socially acceptable, and I said that the major religion actually seems to me to be a kind of lukewarm social Christianity, but real belief is often seen as unsophisticated, which I can't agree with. Believers may be unsophisticated, but that doesn't mean the belief is. (I bet you've experienced a number of supporters of your causes who you'd rather would go away because they just make your side look bad.)

Belief is also often seen as scary, which I think it should be, but not in the way it is perceived or in fact is. That is, true belief does shake things up, which is scary. Jesus must have been scary. But mixing church and state is scary in a different, worse way. To my mind, anyone who professes to follow Jesus but wants wealth and power deserves to be mocked, but not others who at least acknowledge the contradiction. (I'm not giving all my wealth to the poor, but I know I'm selfish, and I try to be better and better about caring about others including via money.)

Yes about Duke Gardens. There's one part I call The Cathedral of the Trees, too. And I recall sitting on the big grassy bowl, explaining Hopkins poems to a friend.

As far as interior-based altered states--yes, that's an issue I grapple with; I'll comment about it below.

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[info]sturgeonslawyer
2008-07-22 04:49 pm UTC (link)
That is so much more -- complicated! -- than any kind of spiritual experience I've had, that it leaves me wondering if I have failed to pay attention.

Thank you for sharing it with us.

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[info]nellorat
2008-07-23 02:01 am UTC (link)
Oh, you sure seem to me to be paying attention!

It was actually my eldestsib, years and years ago, who brought me down a little in a very good way by saying that one doesn't have to have had all the bells and whistles to have belief in G-d, and that I should be more appreciative of more subtle, gentle paths. From there I began to think about the mule & 2x4 analogy.

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[info]firecat
2008-07-22 06:30 pm UTC (link)
I've had similar (in emotional tone and in certainty) experiences, drug-induced, sonic-induced, and stress-induced. The experiences are very meaningful to me and have changed my life.

But I don't have faith that there is any kind of G-d; I'm pretty convinced the experiences were a product of my own mind. Can you articulate what about the experiences brought you the desire to have faith?

Also, are you saying that art is community (which is a very interesting notion) or are you contrasting community with art? Do you feel part of a faith community and in what way do you participate in it?

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[info]nellorat
2008-07-23 02:20 am UTC (link)
I was opposing reading literature, usually a very solitary activity, to community, such as a mass. However, you made me realize that yes, art is a community, a communion with long-dead but still helpful minds. I know I'm an intellectual snob--as I say above, about sermons--which makes John Donne or George Herbert in some ways more satisfying than your usual priest, minister, or priestess, though not as immediate and personal.

As far as in-person communities, though I've grown more traditionally Christian as I age, my immediate experience fell between the stools of Christianity and neo-Paganism in a lot of ways, as you can tell. Now, I could settle in a Christian church, but the ones with intense faith are generally too prejudiced and oppressive, and the ones I could stand to join socially and politically often seem kind-of lukewarm to me religiously.

Re the experience being a product of my own mind or not: at the time, there just wasn't any doubt: I had contact with G-d, that's what the last part was.

Then, though doubts could and would be entertained, some experience always overcame them, and finally it just seemed inelegant in the mathematical sense, kind of wasteful, to doubt, if that's clear. The two main kinds of experiences have been synchronicities--beyond just noticing stuff, but stuff happening, in a way that at least implied a non-local application of my own mind (and why would that be more believable than G-d?), but seemed even broader and more independent of my desires, expectations, and usual thoughts--and the fact that the advice I get in prayer has always been so good, while my beliefs about life have much more often been mistaken.

Also, I had more than a little experience with altered states by then, all of which definitely seemed to have come from inside me, or at most from other people (telempathy etc.). This was not that. Since then, I can meditate or I can pray; they aren't the same thing, don't feel the same, have similar but not identical results.

I have to admit I was also influenced by the people I read; they tended to the theistic, especially but not exclusively Christian, but that was far from all. For instance, I'm completely convinced in the efficacy of magick, too, though I have reasons to conclude it's not for me. But again, the reports of altered consciousness seemed more like other experiences, while reports of mystical experiences seemed more like the rebirthday.

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[info]quility
2008-07-22 07:36 pm UTC (link)
Wow! Thank you for posting this.

Like firecat - I have focused on how mystical experiences seem to be products of ones own mind. Tho that only makes sense - regardless of whether there is also and outside motivator - the experience could only be through what the mind can understand.

The other main trigger/focus for me is that I want to incorporate more listening in my prayer. Thank you for reinforcing a difficult and potentially powerful concept for me.

This was a real gift. Thank you.

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[info]nellorat
2008-07-23 02:33 am UTC (link)
Thanks--I am grateful for all these comments.

See above for reasons I think of the experience as G-d. I agree with your third sentence, very much. For example, one time I was praying, and I challenged G-d with why I always heard responses to prayer in mental voices of people I knew. The response was, "What other voices would be in your head for me to use?"

The fact that G-d must come through a mortal brain also is one reason I can call myself a Christian and, for instance, have two husbands. Apart from not tolerating full Biblical literalism (which has been dismissed for the stupidity it is at least back to Sir Thomas Browne), I do think that one can sometimes see, even in the Bible, what is universal truth and what is cultural or even personal interpretation, static from the instrument to which the message was broadcast. Now, that's a dangerous game to play, and I know it: maybe I just want to think something is less valid because I don't like it. But why follow a prohibition from Leviticus (be it against lobster or against homosexuality), when Jesus himself says his new dispensation has replaced those laws? I pray about such things, and I get answers, not always easy (I'd worry if they were), but so far always good for me.

The final stage of the rebirthday, though, did not feel as though I was in my brain. G-d came to me, but then I went to G-d. As I say, if that's what happens to me after death, OK, yes!

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[info]nancylebov
2008-07-25 01:31 pm UTC (link)
Lois McMaster Bujold's _Curse of Chalion_ and _Paladin of Souls_ might be of interest. They're set in a fantasy[1] world where *all* the magic is done through the gods, and the gods can only act through people.

There's a third book, _The Hallowed Hunt_ which I don't think is as good.

[1] They didn't feel like fantasy to me, and I realized that it's because my default idea of fantasy includes people doing magic themselves.

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[info]supergee
2008-07-23 02:27 pm UTC (link)
1981.

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