Arthur and Kevin's Nellorat ([info]nellorat) wrote,
@ 2006-09-02 22:11:00
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Fact! (Perhaps a Meme)
Five facts I have learned or been reminded of in the past month:

1) Rats cannot belch, and for that reason must not be given carbonated beverages.

2) Veterinarians played a large role in the U.S. biological warfare program, because they are trained in microbiology but have not taken a Hippocratic oath.

3) Shakespeare's plays have a use vocabulary equivalent in number to a six-year-old's recognition vocabulary.

4) Some rapists are deterred by violent resistance on the part of the intended victims, but some will escalate violence in response, depending on their motives.

5) Issei Sagawa is the only cannibal I know of who said the act was disappointing, and he wouldn't do it over if he had the chance.

Mood: happy, but too busy

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[info]noveldevice
2006-09-03 02:41 am UTC (link)
Note to self: never again click a cannibalism link out of curiosity.

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[info]laughingrat
2006-09-03 03:58 am UTC (link)
Seconded. Bleurgh. It's got that train-wreck quality that kept me reading despite also making me ill.

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[info]nellorat
2006-09-04 01:39 am UTC (link)
Should I try to publish a CD-ROM with surprise links to cannibalism as an aid for those on calorie-control diets?

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[info]laughingrat
2006-09-03 03:57 am UTC (link)
And at this moment, the ep of "Monty Python" on PBS has gone into about ten minutes of cannibalism jokes.

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[info]sarah_ovenall
2006-09-03 04:31 am UTC (link)
Have you seen the movie "Keep The River On Your Right"? Tobias Schneebaum also regretted committing cannibalism, although he didn't describe it as "disappointing." I seem to recall that in the beginning of the film he acts like it was no big deal, but by the end he admits to being haunted by it.

It wasn't a great movie but Schneebaum is a really interesting person, so worth watching I think.

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[info]nellorat
2006-09-04 01:36 am UTC (link)
Wow! I googled on him and was delighted that you mentioned this. At first I had him confused with Daniel Gajdusek, who combined research into kuru in the Fore tribe with (likely, alleged) sex with native young men. Now I want to read/reread about Gajdusek and read/view about Scheebaum.

I have to say, I should have said "cannibal killers." There is also survival cannibalism, a very different topic although I know of two books that cover the whole range of cannibalism. Apparently, for instance, survival cannibalism was rare but significant during the days of the great sea voyages. And yeah, many people, such as the Andes plane-crash survivors, have been haunted for life by it (a precise, good verb).

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[info]sarah_ovenall
2006-09-04 01:53 am UTC (link)
You could consider Schneebaum a survival cannibal, since his survival may have depended on eating with the tribe he was studying. On the other hand, he participated in (or at least, went along for) the raid that ended in cannibalism, which maybe puts him in the killer cannibal category. Maybe "unwilling killer cannibal"?

Georg read an interesting book about survival cannibalism on the sea called, appropriately enough, "The Custom of the Sea."

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[info]shelleybear
2006-09-03 04:38 am UTC (link)
I like the bit in "Shawn of the Dead" when you find out how the former girlfriend survived in the tree.

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[info]noveldevice
2006-09-03 05:30 am UTC (link)
??

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[info]shelleybear
2006-09-03 12:58 pm UTC (link)

She climbed into a tree and survived by eating the leg of her current boyfriend. You don't actually see it as part of the film, but it is in the special features.

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[info]nellorat
2006-09-04 01:38 am UTC (link)
These comments have been great--I know I watched SotD on DVD, but I don't recall that. Did I not actually see the special features? Well, that can be remedied!

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[info]shelleybear
2006-09-04 02:45 am UTC (link)
Did I not actually see the special features?

There are a ton of special features.
The one you want to look at is what happened to the various characters after the movie ends.
I've been thinking about buying you a cricket bat for Christmas.

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Some rapists are deterred ...
[info]calimac
2006-09-03 06:55 am UTC (link)
This reminds me of bears. Some bears are deterred from attacking if you stand up and look big and threatening; others are more likely to attack. Some bears will not bother chasing you if you run away; others are inspired for the hunt.

And you'd better know which kind of bear is which before you do either.

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Re: Some rapists are deterred ...
[info]nellorat
2006-09-04 01:23 am UTC (link)
Wow! I'm glad to know this, although I would be more annoyed (as I was when I found that out about rapists) if I were ever around bears. Is "kind of bear" species--or something else one could learn--or something more like age and temperament?

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Re: Some bears are deterred ...
[info]calimac
2006-09-04 02:29 am UTC (link)
It's species. Except when it isn't. Bears sometimes forget to check which species they are before attacking.

And if I were in the wilderness, pursued by a bear, I doubt I could remember which species was which, are how to tell them apart, or which species has one name when it's on the coast and another name when it's in the interior.

Any more than I can right now.

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[info]zelda888
2006-09-07 02:27 am UTC (link)
A lot of it is situational, as I understand it. If the bear comes upon you, looking for food, you want to be Not Food. Big, nasty, hard to kill, not worth the trouble. If you come upon the bear, startling it and making it feel threatened, you want to be Not a Threat. Small, backing away slowly, nothing to see here. The trick is figuring out which of these things has happened, and quickly.

If you see a bear cub and don't see momma, turn right around and, don't run, but Begone Forthwith. If you see a cub and you are between it and momma, it is Too Late. Try to protect your head and neck.

Not any kind of expert; just the SO of someone who takes a lot of walks in pine forest above 8000 feet.

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[info]loosechanj
2006-09-04 02:25 am UTC (link)
Rats cannot belch

I find this to be very sad, because at this moment I can't think of anything funnier than a burping rat.

Shakespeare's plays have a use vocabulary equivalent in number to a six-year-old's recognition vocabulary./em>

Well, he did write for a popular audience, didn't he?

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[info]nellorat
2006-09-04 02:22 pm UTC (link)
Well, for funnier than a burping rat, how about a farting rat? All rats can physically fart, but only a minority do so (perspetibly to humans). Buddy, the beloved rat in this icon, was one. You couldn't hear them, but you could really smell them.

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[info]sarah_ovenall
2006-09-06 01:05 am UTC (link)
How about a dog who scares herself when she farts? Thirteen does this all the time: farts, jumps up in a fright, and runs away. Best of all it doesn't smell. So we can enjoy the hilarity without suffering the consequences.

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[info]epi_lj
2006-09-05 03:17 pm UTC (link)
Wow. That article about Issei Sagawa is bizarre!

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